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Transcript of Trump's chat with Ukrainian President

The President: I would like you to do us a favor though
because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a
lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with
this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike ... I guess
you have one of your wealthy people. The server, they say
Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the
whole situation  I think you're surrounding yourself with some
of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General
call you or your people and I would like you to get to the
bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended
with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an
incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with
Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you. do it
if that's possible.
President Zelenskyy: Yes it is. very important for me and
everything that you just mentioned earlier. For me as a
President, it is very important and we are open for any future
cooperation. We are ready to open a new page on cooperation
in relations between the United States and Ukraine. For that
purpose, I just recalled our ambassador from United States and
he will be replaced by a very competent and very experienced
ambassador who will work hard on making sure that our two
nations are getting closer. I would also like and hope to see
him having your trust and your confidence and have personal
relations with you so we can cooperate even more so.
I will personally tell you that one· of my assistants spoke with
Mr. Giuliani just recently and we are hoping very much that
Mr. Giuliani will be able to travel to Ukraine and we will meet once
 he comes to Ukraine. I just wanted to assure you once again that
you have nobody but friends around us. I will make sure that I
surround myself with the best and most experienced people.
I also wanted to tell you that we are friends. We are great
friends and you Mr. President have friends in our country so we
can continue our strategic partnership. I also plan to surround
 myself with great people and in addition to that investigation,
I guarantee as the President of Ukraine that all the
investigations will be done openly and candidly .. That I can
assure you ..
 The President: Good because I heard you had a prosecutor
who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair.
A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your
very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people
involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the_
mayor bf New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to
call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General.
Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very
capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The
former ambassador from the United States, the woman., was bad
news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad
news so I just want to let you know that  The other thing,
There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the
prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so
whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great.
Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if
you can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me.
President Zelenskyy: I wanted to tell ·you about the
prosecutor  First of all I understand arid I'm knowledgeable
about the situation. Since we have won the absolute majority in
our Parliament; the next prosecutor general will be 100% my
person, my candidate, who will be approved, by the parliament and
will start as a new prosecutor in September. He or she will look.
into the situation, specifically to the company that you
mentioned in this issue. The issue of the investigation of the
case is actually the issue of making sure to restore the honesty
so we will take care of that and will work on the investigation
of the case. On top of that, I would kindly ask you if you have
any additional information that you can provide to us, it would
be very helpful for the investigation to make· sure that we
administer justice in our country with regard: to the Ambassador
to the United States from Ukraine as far as I recall her name
was Ivanovich. It was great that you were the first one. who told
me that she was a bad ambassador because I agree with you 100%.
Her attitude towards me was far from the best as she admired the
previous President and she was on his side. She would not accept
me as a new President well enough.

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Trump and Giuliani appear to be blackmailing Ukraine, leaving it vulnerable to Putin’s aggression, in order to strong-arm their President into helping the Trump campaign defeat Joe Biden.
As the Washington Post said, “Mr. Trump is not just soliciting Ukraine’s help with his presidential campaign; he is using U.S. Military Aid, (which the country desperately needs), to extort it.” https://www.salon.com/2019/09/10/trump-keeps-trying-to-find-a-biden-scandal-in-ukraine-but-he-cant-even-get-that-right/

Also Trump is misrepresenting that the Attorney General is involved in the request of a "favor" -- the Attorney general denies all knowledge of it and was never asked to call .

While the United States has taken the lead on military aid, in 2016-2017, the European Union provided $425 million in development aid, with the United States spending $204 million, Germany $189 million and Japan $180 million.


OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY
WASHINGTON, DC. 20511

This Letter is TOP SECRET<dedacted>when detached from the Enclosures

August 26, 2019
VIA HAND DELIVERY

The Honorable Joseph Maguire

Director of National Intelligence (Acting)
Of?ce of the Director of National Intelligence
Washington, DC. 20511

Dear Acting Director Maguire:

(U) On Monday, August 12, 2019, the Of?ce of the Inspector General of the Intelligence
Community (ICIG) received information from an individual (hereinafter, the ?Complainant?)
concerning an alleged ?urgent concern,? pursuant to 50 U.S.C. 3033(k)(5)(A). The law
requires that, ?[n]ot later than the end of the 14-calendar?day period beginning on the date of
receipt from an employee of a complaint or information under subparagraph A, the Inspector
General shall determine whether the complaint or information appears credible.?l For the
reasons discussed below, among others, I have determined that the Complainant has reported an
?urgent concern? that ?appears credible.?

(U) As you know, the ICIG is authorized to, among other things, ?receive and investigate
. . . complaints or information from any person concerning the existence of an activity within the
authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence constituting a violation of
laws, rules, or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a
substantial and Speci?c danger to the public health and safety.?2 In connection with that
authority, employee of an element of the intelligence community, an employee assigned or
detailed to an element of the intelligence community, or an employee of a contractor to the
intelligence community who intends to report to Congress a complaint or information with
respect to an urgent concern may report such complaint or infonnation? to the ICIG.3


1 (U) 1d. at 3033(k)(5)(B).
2 (U) [a at 3033(g)(3).

3 (U) M. at 33 3033(k)(5)(A).

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(U) The term ?urgent concern? is de?ned, in relevant part, as:

(U) A serious or ?agrant problem, abuse, violation of law or Executive
order, or de?ciency relating to the ?mding, administration, or operation of
an intelligence activity within the responsibility and authority of the
Director of National Intelligence involving classi?ed information, but
does not include differences of opinions concerning public policy matters.4

The Complainant?s identity is known to me. As allowed by law, however,
the Complainant has requested that the ICIG not disclose the Complainant?s identity at this
time.5 For your information, the Complainant has retained an attorney, identi?ed the attorney to
the ICIG, and requested that the attorney be the Complainant?s point of contact in subsequent
communications with the congressional'intelligence committees on this matter.

(UADEGHG) As part of the Complainant?s report to the ICIG of information with respect
to the urgent concern, the Complainant included a letter addressed to The Honorable Richard
Burr, Chairman, U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and The Honorable Adam Schiff,
Chairman, U.S. House of Representatives Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence
(hereinafter, the ?Complainant?s Letter?). The Complainant?s Letter referenced a separate,
Classi?ed Appendix containing information pertaining to the urgent concern (hereinafter, the
?Classi?ed Appendix?), which the Complainant also provided to the ICIG and which the
Complainant intends to provide to Chairmen Burr and Schiff. The ICIG attaches hereto the
Complainant?s Letter, addressed to Chairmen Burr and Schiff, and the Classi?ed Appendix. The
ICIG has informed the Complainant that the transmittal of information by the Director of
National Intelligence related to the Complainant?s report to the congressional intelligence
committees, as required by 50 U.S.C. 3033(k)(5)(C), may not be limited to Chairmen Burr and I
Schiff.

(U) The Complainant?s Letter and Classi?ed Appendix delineate the Complainant?s
information pertaining to the urgent concern. According to the Complainant?s Letter, ?the
actions described [in the Complainant?s Letter and Classi?ed Appendix] constitute ?a serious or
?agrant problem, abuse, or violation of law or Executive Order,?? consistent with the de?nition
ofan ?urgent concern? in 50 U.S.C.

(UHLBHO) Upon receiving the information reported by the Complainant, the ICIG
conducted a preliminary review to determine whether the report constituted ?an urgent concern?
under 50 U.S.C. 3033(k)(5). As part of the preliminary review, the ICIG con?rmed that the
Complainant is employee of an element of the intelligence community, an employee
assigned or detailed to an element of the intelligence community, or an employee of a contractor
to the intelligence community.?6 The ICIG also con?rmed that the Complainant intends to
report to Congress the Complainant?s information relating to the urgent concern.7

(5118- As stated above, to constitute an ?urgent concern? under 50 U.S.C.
the information reported by the Complainant must constitute serious or
?agrant problem, abuse, violation of law or Executive order, or de?ciency relating to the
funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity within the responsibility and
authority of the Director of National Intelligence involving classi?ed information.?8 Here, the
Complainant?s Letter alleged, among other things, that the President of the United States, in a
telephone call with Ukrainian President on July 25, 2019, ?sought to
pressure the Ukrainian leader to take actions to help the President?s 2020 reelection bid.? U.S.
laws and regulations prohibit a foreign national, directly or indirectly, from making a
contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied
promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local
election.9 . Similarly, U.S. laws and regulations prohibit a person from soliciting, accepting, or
receiving such a contribution or donation ?om a foreign national, directly or indirectly, in
connection with a Federal, State, or local election.10 Further, in the judgment, alleged
conduct by a senior U.S. public of?cial to seek foreign assistance to interfere in or in?uence a
Federal election would constitute a ?serious or ?agrant problem [or] abuse? under 50 U.S.C.
which would also potentially expose such a U.S. public of?cial (or others
acting in concert with the U.S. public of?cial) to serious national security and
counterintelligence risks with respect to foreign intelligence services aware of such alleged
conduct.

(U) In addition, the Director of National Intelligence has responsibility and authority
pursuant to federal law and Executive Orders to administer and operate programs and activities
related to potential foreign interference in a United States election}l Among other


6 (U) Id. at 3033(k)(5)(A).

7 (U) Id.

3 (U) The Complainant?s Classi?ed Appendix appears to contain classi?ed information involving an
alleged ?serious or ?agrant problem, abuse, violation of law or Executive order, or de?ciency relating to
the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity Within the responsibility and authority
of the Director of National Intelligence,? as required by 50 U.S.C.

9 (U) See, Ag, 52 U.S.C. 30l21(a)(1)(A); 11 CPR. 110.200?.
10 (U) See, 52 U.S.C. 30121(a)(2); 11 C.F.R.
(U) See, e. g, National Security Act of 1947, as amended; Exec. Order No. 12333, as amended, United

States Intelligence Activities; Exec. Order No. 13848, Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign
In?uence in a United States Election (Sept. 12, 2018).



responsibilities and authorities, subject to the authority, direction, and control of the President,
the Director of National Intelligence ?shall serve as the head of the Intelligence Community, act
as the principal adviser to the President, to the [National Security Council], and to the Homeland
Security Council for intelligence matters related to national security, and shall oversee and direct
the implementation of the National Intelligence Program and execution of the National
Intelligence Program budget.?12 Further, the United States Intelligence Community, ??mder the
leadership of the Director [of National Intelligence],? shall ?collect information concerning, and
conduct activities to protect against, . . . intelligence activities directed against the United
States??

(U) More recently, in issuing Executive Order 13848, Imposing Certain Sanctions in the
Event of Foreign In?uence in a United States Election (Sept. 12, 2018), President Trump stated
the following regarding foreign in?uence in United States elections:

I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, ?nd
that the ability of persons located, in whole or in part, outside the United
States to interfere in Or undermine public con?dence in United States
elections, including through the unauthorized accessing of election and
campaign infrastructure or the covert distribution of prepaganda and
disinformation, constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the
national'security and foreign policy of the United States.M



'2 (5651-) Exec. Order. No. 12333 at 1.3, In the Complainant?s Classi?ed Appendix, the
Complainant reported that of?cials from the Of?ce of Management and Budget, in the days before and on
the day after the President?s call on July 25, 2019, allegedly informed the ?interagency? that the President
had issued instructions to suspend all security assistance to Ukraine. The Complainant further alleges in
the Classi?ed Appendix that there might be a connection between the allegations concerning the
substance of the President?s telephone call with the Ukrainian President on July 25, 2019, and the alleged
action to suspend (or continue the suspension 0t) all security assistance to Ukraine. If the allegedly
improper motives were substantiated as part of a future investigation, the alleged suspension (or
continued suspension) of all security assistance to Ukraine might implicate the Director of National
Intelligence?s responsibility and authority with regard to implementing the National Intelligence Program
and/or executing the National Intelligence Program budget.

?3 (U) Exec. Order No. 12333 at 1.4.

14 (U) Among other directives, the Executive Order requires the Director of National Intelligence, in
consultation with the heads of any other appropriate executive departments and agencies, not later than 45
days after the conclusion of a United States election, to ?conduct an assessment of any information
indicating that a foreign government, or any person acting as an agent of or on behalf of a foreign
government, has acted with the intent or purpose of interfering in that election,? and the ?assessment shall
identify, to the maximum extent ascertainable, the nature of any foreign interference and any methods
employed to execute it, the persons involved, and the foreign government or governments that authorized,
directed, sponsored, or supported it.? Exec. Order No. 13848 at

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(U) Most recently, on July 19, 2019, as part of the Director of National Intelligence?s
responsibility and authority to administer and operate programs and activities related to potential
foreign interference in a United States election, the Director of National Intelligence announced
the establishment of the Intelligence Community Election Threats Executive. In the words of
then-Director of National Intelligence Daniel R. Coats, who announced the establishment of the
new position within the Of?ce of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), ?Election
security is an enduring challenge and a top priority for the A few days later, in an internal
announcement for the ODNI, then-Director Coats stated, can think of no higher priority
mission than working to counter adversary efforts to undermine the very core of our democratic

process??

(U) As a result, I have determined that the Complainant?s information would constitute
an urgent concern, as de?ned in 50 U.S.C. provided that I also determine that
the information ?appears credible,? as required by 50 U.S.C. 3033(k)(5)(B).

(Sf?Sl- Based on the information reported by the Complainant to the ICIG and the
preliminary review, I have determined that there are reasonable grounds to believe that
the complaint relating to the urgent concern ?appears credible.? The preliminary review
indicated that the Complainant has official and authorized access to the information and sources
referenced in the Complainant?s Letter and Classified Appendix, and that the Complainant has
subject matter expertise related to much of the material information provided in the
Complainant?s Letter and Classi?ed Appendix. The Complainant?s Letter acknowledges that the
Complainant was not a direct witness to the President?s telephone call with the Ukrainian
President on July 25, 2019. Other information obtained during the preliminary review,
however, supports the Complainant?s allegation that, among other things, during the call the
President ?sought to pressure the Ukrainian leader to take actions to help the President?s 2020
reelection bid.? Further, although the preliminary review identi?ed some indicia of an
arguable political bias on the part of the Complainant in favor of a rival political candidate, such
evidence did not change my determination that the complaint relating to the urgent concern
?appears credible,? particularly given the other information the ICIG obtained during its
preliminary review.

As part of its preliminary review, the ICIG did not request access to records
of the President?s July 25, 2019, call with the Ukrainian President. Based on the sensitivity of
the alleged urgent concern, I directed ICIG personnel to conduct a preliminary review of the
Complainant?s information. Based on the information obtained from the preliminary
review, I decided that access to records of the telephone call was not necessary to make my



?5 (U) ODNT News Release, Director of National Intelligence Daniel R. Coats Establishes Intelligence
Community Election Threats Executive (July 19, 2019).

?5 (U) Memorandum from Daniel R. Coats, Director of National Intelligence, entitled, Designation of

Intelligence Community Election Threats Executive and Assistant Deputy Director for Mission
Integration (July 23, 2019).


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determination that the complaint relating to the urgent concern ?appears credible.? In addition,
given the time consumed by the preliminary review, together with negotiations that I
anticipated over access to and use of records of the telephone call, particularly for purposes of
communicating a disclosure to the congressional intelligence committees, I concluded that it
would be highly unlikely for the ICIG to obtain those records within the limited remaining time
allowed by the statute. I also understood from the preliminary review that the National
Security Council had already implemented special handling procedures to preserve all records of
the telephone call.

(9115-) Nevertheless, the ICIG understands that the records of the call will be
relevant to any further investigation of this matter. For your information, the ICIG has sent
concurrently with this transmittal a notice of a document access request and a document hold
notice to the White House Counsel to request access to and the preservation of any and all
records related. to the President?s telephone call with the Ukrainian President on July 25, 2019,
and alleged related efforts to solicit, obtain, or receive assistance from foreign nationals in
Ukraine, directly or indirectly, in connection with a Federal election. The document access
request and document hold notice were issued pursuant to the authority to conduct
independent investigations and reviews on programs and activities within the responsibility and
authority of the Director of National Intelligence, which includes the authority for the ICIG to
have ?direct access to all records, reports, audits, reviews, documents, papers, recommendations,
or other materials that relate to the programs and activities with respect to which the Inspector
General has responsibilities under this section.?17

(U) Having determined that the complaint relating to the urgent concern appears credible,
I am transmitting to you this notice of my determination, along with the Complainant?s Letter
and Classi?ed Appendix. Upon receipt of this transmittal, the Director of National Intelligence
?shall, within 7 calendar days of such receipt, forward such transmittal to the congressional
intelligence committees, together with any comments the Director considers appropriate.?18



?7 (U) 50 U.S.C. 3033(g)(2)(C). The statutory right of access to those records is consistent with
the statutory right of access to such records provided to the Director of National Intelligence. See 50
U.S.C. 3024(b) (?Unless otherwise directed by the President, the Director of National Intelligence shall
have access to all national intelligence and intelligence related to the national security which is collected
by any Federal department, agency, or other entity, except as otherwise provided by law or, as
appropriate, under guidelines agreed upon by the Attorney General and the Director of National
Intelligence?).

13 (U) See 50 U.S.C. The ICIG notes that if the ICIG had determined the complaint was
not an ?urgent concern? or did not ?appear[] credible,? the statute would require the Director of National
Intelligence to transmit the same information to the same congressional intelligence committees in the
same time period, and provides the Complainant with the right ?to submit the complaint or information to
Congress by contacting either or both of the congressional intelligence committees directly,? id. at
subject to direction from the Director of National Intelligence, through the ICIG, ?on
how to contact the congressional intelligence committees in accordance with appropriate security
practices,? id. at? 3033(k)(5)(D)(ii).

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Because the ICIG has the statutory responsibility to ?notify an employee who reports a complaint
or information? to the ICIG concerning an urgent concern ?of each action taken? with respect to
the complaint or infOrmation ?not later than 3 days after any such action is taken,?9 I
reSpectfully request that you provide the ICIG with notice of your transmittal to the
congressional intelligence committees not later than 3 days after the transmittal is made to them.
In addition, as required by the statute, the ICIG is required to notify the Complainant not later
than 3 days after today?s date of my determination that the complaint relating to the urgent
concem appears credible and that the ICIG transmitted on today?s date notice of that
determination to the Director of National Intelligence, along with the Complainant?s Letter and
Classi?ed Appendix.

(U) If you have any questions or require additional information concerning this matter,
please do not hesitate to contact me.

Sincerely yours,

45/7/

Michael K. Atkins
Inspector General
of the Intelligence Community



(U) Enclosures Complainant?s Letter and Classi?ed Appendix) (Documents are
JFS

This Letter is m_wvhen detached from the Enclosures



'9 (U) 50 use 3033(k)(5)(E).



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